Just a Splash of Test with very little Anavar is as effective as a GOOD dose of "test"!

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Just a Splash of Test with very little Anavar is as effective as a GOOD dose of "test"!

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When you're young, the temptation is maybe to think, 'More is more.' But a lot of the time less is more....

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A little testosterone and a little oxandrolone as effective as a good dose of testosterone (JAMA. 1999 Apr 14; 281 (14): 1282-90.)

Let your men train for 20 weeks with weights and inject them with 600 mg of testosterone enantate, then, according to studies, it yields 8 kilos of extra lean body mass. It is also possible with less, doctors of the University of California discovered. You can achieve almost the same result with a pronounced mild course of oxandrolone and testosterone enantate - which only lasts 8 weeks.

The researchers published a trial in chic JAMA in 1999 in response to the studies in which researchers gave men with HIV large doses for medical purposes, such as 600 mg of nandrolone decanoate per week. The HIV men also trained with weights. The researchers do not think that high doses are necessary. That is why they decided on a trial in which they gave 22 HIV patients 20 mg oxandrolone daily and a 100 mg testosterone enantate injection every week. The course lasted 8 weeks.

The men trained 3 times a week with weights. Under the guidance of a trainer, they took care of the most important muscles of the upper body with 6 basic exercises, and trained the lower body with 3 basic exercises. They trained with weights that were 80 percent of the weight with which they could just make 1 rep [1RM].

Eleven men only received a 100 mg testosterone enantate injection every week and took a placebo. Eleven other men took 20 mg of oxandrolone every day.
The figure below shows that after 8 weeks the oxandrolone group had gained nearly 8 kilos of lean body mass.
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A little "test" and a little oxandrolone as effective as a GOOD dose of "test"-STUDY

The men in the oxandrolone group also became stronger faster than the other men. For the bench press and leg press, the maximum weight for the men in the placebo group increased by 10 and 20 pounds respectively. For the men in the oxandrolone group that was 20 and 30 kilos.
The men in the oxandrolone group also lost a few ounce more fat than the men in the placebo group.
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It is therefore not necessary at all to cure 20 weeks with 600 mg if you want to gain 8 kilos of lean body mass, the researchers conclude. It is also possible with lower doses.

Moreover, the mild oxandrolone testosterone treatment was not entirely without side effects. In the oxandrolone group, 1 patient had to drop out because his liver started to act strange. Blood tests also showed that the addition of oxandrolone to the modest testosterone course further reduced the body's own production of testosterone. The production of the hormones LH and FSH decreased extra in the oxandrolone group, the researchers discovered. LH and FSH have the testes produce testosterone.
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Some men used virus inhibitors. These drugs did not influence the effects of the steroids.

"The combination of resistance exercise with a moderately supraphysiologic androgen regimen that included oxandrolone increased significantly increased lean tissue and muscle strength than resistance exercise with physiologic testosterone replacement alone in eugonadal HIV-infected men with prior weight loss, " conclude the researchers. " The use of protease inhibitor therapy did not affect the lean tissue response".


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Re: Just a Splash of Test with very little Anavar is as effective as a GOOD dose of "test"!

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So a possible cruise run? Or extending the cruise for a couple more weeks like 100ml test for 4 weeks then 100ml test and 20 anavar for the next 4 weeks than blast off.

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One time I did a “cruise” with 200mg test and 80mg var and it was really amazing to be honest. I’d consider doing it again for sure. Sometimes I cruise for 6 months at a time so I had decided to add var.

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A.font817 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 10:06 am
One time I did a “cruise” with 200mg test and 80mg var and it was really amazing to be honest. I’d consider doing it again for sure. Sometimes I cruise for 6 months at a time so I had decided to add var.
Dent the wallet but sounds good. Thanks man

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Using Oxandrolone with test will give you the benefict of oxandrolone: more strengh and more fat burning mostly in belly.

I always said is better 2 compounds than 1 because each one have is beneficts.

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For those older lions out there, you really don't need much, just some test, mast and var, and you have a nice moderate to low dose yet effective cycle!!!!!!!!!!!
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Masteron is a must yes even more for the older ones looking to keep amazing sex drive and energy .

In the 70` and 80`you dont they dont have masteron to use. Do you believe the crispy look you see today is because of higher dosages of masteron?

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MONSTRO wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:39 pm
Masteron is a must yes even more for the older ones looking to keep amazing sex drive and energy .

In the 70` and 80`you dont they dont have masteron to use. Do you believe the crispy look you see today is because of higher dosages of masteron?
It's amazing how these pioneers paved the way for us with limited compounds, back then many used Stenbolone ace and primo.. Stenbolone ace was a HUGE contributor, once it left the market back when people were just heartbroken.
Look at Serge Nubret as an example, Samir Bannout, Franco Columbu, Ed Corney, Albert Beckles and most of all Frank Zane..
The waistline on these guys.
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Stenbolone acetate (USAN) (brand name Stenobolone, Anatrofin; former developmental code names RS-2106, S-3760), also known as 2-methyl-4,5α-dihydro-δ1-testosterone 17β-acetate (2-methyl-δ1-DHT 17β-acetate) or as 2-methyl-5α-androst-1-en-17β-ol-3-one 17β-acetate, is a synthetic, injected anabolic–androgenic steroid (AAS) and derivative of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) which has been marketed in Spain.[1][2][3] It is the C17β acetate ester of stenbolone, which is structurally related to 1-testosterone (Δ1-DHT; dihydroboldenone) and to drostanolone (2α-methyl-DHT).[1][2][3]
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I love a nice long Anavar run low dose 30mg for 8-12 weeks

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I always have large waist , so i need alot stenbolone to have it fixed . never used before but i will try soon .

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