Does anyone else struggle with the idea of coming off cycle or cruising? Like coming off cycle is almost as hard as quitting smoking? I absolutely HATE the thought of having to drop down to a cruise for several weeks or months. The idea of busting my ass every day just to lose, or at best "maintain" my gains is horribly unappealing. Wake up at the ass crack of dawn, eat a solid breakfast, hit the gym HARD, eat again, drink enough water, eat again, meal prep, eat again, sleep, rinse & repeat. Doing all this while cruising on 200mg of Testosterone just to simply avoid LOSING gains really sucks. Perhaps I don't have the right mindset or discipline to do this lifestyle the healthy way, but goddammit if I'm gonna put that much effort into this then I wanna see some gains!

I'm finding it harder and harder to convince myself to come off. Instead I'll just switch compounds and convince myself that alternating compounds is a healthier way to stay on cycle longer. Could this be what "steroid addiction" is?

Does anyone else feel this way?

I have this disease and all of them in bodybuilding like bigorexy but i dont take nothing to cure them because i love them . I have all i have because of bodybuilding ( it changes my life for better ) . This is not an addiction like recrational drugs , you just dont want to stop to not lose the gains . So is not an addiction is more a necessity to look good like girls using botox ( they need to keep using to look good ) , and when you have an image to the other people you dont want to look worst for sure .
Thats why Euro Pharmacies create a new product TRT PLUS to use even after 40´s and keep looking and fell good

These pictures are absolutely beautiful I can stare at them all day that's how bad my addiction is..

And yes, I have been addicted to this since the day I started. However just because it's something that we put in our body I think the word addiction is a bit tarnished and gives it a bad name, because I know guys that work at 9:00 to 5:00, and they put all their money into their project car in the garage, and they spend all their time on that car.. that's their addiction.. I've had people say you spend a lot of money on the food and supplements and all that time training, I tell them that this is the equivalency of that car in the garage.. that guy that sits up looking through catalogs for parts for his car, that guy that stops and looks at other muscle cars when he's walking into a store because it gives him an idea for his car, well that's me with gear and lifting, I'll stop and read an article online, I'll stop and look at a picture and admire it, I'll stop and watch a video or intentionally look for a video.
Addictions are no different than that guy who can't get enough of sneaking off and going to the golf course who spends thousands of dollars on golf clubs.. how about the guys that go surf fishing or tuna fishing spending hundreds of thousands of dollars fishing all over the place..

The addiction is fishing for some guys, or it's a muscle car, or it could be deer hunting with multiple seasons, our way of life is no different.. we are our very own hobby we are our very own addiction..

Vision wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:54 pm These pictures are absolutely beautiful I can stare at them all day that's how bad my addiction is..

And yes, I have been addicted to this since the day I started. However just because it's something that we put in our body I think the word addiction is a bit tarnished and gives it a bad name, because I know guys that work at 9:00 to 5:00, and they put all their money into their project car in the garage, and they spend all their time on that car.. that's their addiction.. I've had people say you spend a lot of money on the food and supplements and all that time training, I tell them that this is the equivalency of that car in the garage.. that guy that sits up looking through catalogs for parts for his car, that guy that stops and looks at other muscle cars when he's walking into a store because it gives him an idea for his car, well that's me with gear and lifting, I'll stop and read an article online, I'll stop and look at a picture and admire it, I'll stop and watch a video or intentionally look for a video.
Addictions are no different than that guy who can't get enough of sneaking off and going to the golf course who spends thousands of dollars on golf clubs.. how about the guys that go surf fishing or tuna fishing spending hundreds of thousands of dollars fishing all over the place..

The addiction is fishing for some guys, or it's a muscle car, or it could be deer hunting with multiple seasons, our way of life is no different.. we are our very own hobby we are our very own addiction..

You're totally right. The only problem with OUR "addiction" is that it can be harmful. Most people with these other recreational addictions (fishing, golf, cars, etc.) don't have to worry about taking breaks from their passion because it won't potentially kill them if they don't stop or take breaks.

Jozifp103 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:36 pm

Vision wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:54 pm These pictures are absolutely beautiful I can stare at them all day that's how bad my addiction is..

And yes, I have been addicted to this since the day I started. However just because it's something that we put in our body I think the word addiction is a bit tarnished and gives it a bad name, because I know guys that work at 9:00 to 5:00, and they put all their money into their project car in the garage, and they spend all their time on that car.. that's their addiction.. I've had people say you spend a lot of money on the food and supplements and all that time training, I tell them that this is the equivalency of that car in the garage.. that guy that sits up looking through catalogs for parts for his car, that guy that stops and looks at other muscle cars when he's walking into a store because it gives him an idea for his car, well that's me with gear and lifting, I'll stop and read an article online, I'll stop and look at a picture and admire it, I'll stop and watch a video or intentionally look for a video.
Addictions are no different than that guy who can't get enough of sneaking off and going to the golf course who spends thousands of dollars on golf clubs.. how about the guys that go surf fishing or tuna fishing spending hundreds of thousands of dollars fishing all over the place..

The addiction is fishing for some guys, or it's a muscle car, or it could be deer hunting with multiple seasons, our way of life is no different.. we are our very own hobby we are our very own addiction..

You're totally right. The only problem with OUR "addiction" is that it can be harmful. Most people with these other recreational addictions (fishing, golf, cars, etc.) don't have to worry about taking breaks from their passion because it won't potentially kill them if they don't stop or take breaks.

this is true...

Generally, the abuse of AAS is associated with perceptual image disorders, eating disorders and compulsive exercise. Psychiatrist Tom Hildebrandt may have found a biological explanation for this latter aspect. In 2014, Hildebrandt published a study carried out on humans which suggests that the use of AAS increases the addiction to intense exercise.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.drugalcdep.2014.03.008

Study details

The researchers who participated in the present study analyzed blood samples from 26 men who trained intensely with weights. Ten men were “natural” [Control; Heavy exercise control], the other sixteen used AAS. The average AAS user in this study had already completed a dozen cycles.

During this study, half of AAS users were under cycle, the other half were "off".

Results

By analyzing the blood of the subjects under observation, the researchers measured, through specific markers, the degree to which the participants enjoyed physical training using a complex test. In short, the subjects under examination were subjected to treadmill sessions, having to perform increasingly demanding tasks during the same session in order to continue running.

AAS users appreciated their training more than non-users, and those who were on cycle scored significantly higher than the “off” users.
In the blood they analyzed, the researchers found a possible explanation for an AAS user 's greater tendency to undergo intense training, and it is not as trivial as one might think. The beta-endorphin concentration was higher in this group of subjects.

Beta-endorphin, or β-endorphin, is a peptide hormone, an endogenous opioid neuropeptide produced in some neurons of the central and peripheral nervous systems.
https://Beta-Endorphin#cite_note-NHM-Beta-endorphin

It is one of the three endorphins produced in man, the others include α-endorphin and γ-endorphin.
https://Beta-Endorphin#cite_note-Endoge ... 012_review

Beta-endorphins are released during intense exercise. It is an important factor in the euphoric sensations experienced by athletes during performance, which endurance athletes refer to as the "runner's high". According to sports psychologists, beta-endorphins play a crucial role in addiction to sports activity.

Beta-endorphins interact with the same receptors that addictive opioid pain relievers such as morphine interact with. In the 1970s, during experiments with laboratory animals, Horace Loh discovered that the analgesic effect of beta-endorphins exceeded that of morphine by a factor of 18-33.
https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.73.8.2895 Conclusions

The results of this study provide ongoing support for the role of compulsive exercise in AAS addiction and its possible incorporation into the model of addiction to AAS.

The fact that AAS cause an increase in muscle mass and can also improve the mood and reinforcement value of behaviors such as exercise through effects on the HPA axis suggests that this may lead to a condition of strong induction of chronic disease of use of AAS.

Anyone here see the movie Bigorexy ? I hope i find a place to see it . So why im talking about the movie ? Because Bigorexy is the disease that me and most people have when they got in love with bodybuilding and when we got it we will never stop with affraid losing gains and look smaller . This is the main reason steroids can be addicted , yes not as a drug dependency but part of our body to look like we want