• Higher Doses when cutting? (Seems the pros are doing it)

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:47 pm**

It seems the general consensus when it comes to competitive bodybuilding is that most pros will run lower AAS doses when bulking and higher doses when cutting. Which kind of goes against what one would think. You would think that they would run higher doses when bulking to assist in adding more muscle and lower the doses when cutting to maintain.

However it makes sense when you think about it...

Building muscle is rather easy and can be done with minimal doses of AAS as long as the calorie intake is conducive. When you're bulking there's nothing working against you, you have the androgens, and the calories you need so doses can be moderate when trying to build muscle.

When cutting, you have everything working against you. Lack of calories, increase in cardio (burning calories), decrease in training endurance/strength, etc. If anything you would want to increase your AAS during this time to counteract everything else working against you to preserve as much muscle as possible and prevent catabolism.

Here's a study done that analyzes the methods used by bodybuilders including their doses. You can see that they increase their doses substantially when cutting. -> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28458804/

Also here's an "alleged" leak of Big Ramy's off-season & contest prep cycle:

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:39 pm**

Make sense and is the reality for sure . off season you can grow on test + deca + dbol + hgh + slin and dont need to much because you rest more , eat more and sleep better , so much more anabolic .
When comes to contest , you have low calories , alot of stress and lack of sleep you will need more and also more androgenics to hold the mass you gain on offseason . The only problem on higher dosages pre contest is water retention but last week we fix it with depliting loading and diuretics .

This is a crazy cycle . Do you think Ramy needs all this stuff to get that level?

Posted: **Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:03 pm**

MONSTRO wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:39 pm Make sense and is the reality for sure . off season you can grow on test + deca + dbol + hgh + slin and dont need to much because you rest more , eat more and sleep better , so much more anabolic .
When comes to contest , you have low calories , alot of stress and lack of sleep you will need more and also more androgenics to hold the mass you gain on offseason . The only problem on higher dosages pre contest is water retention but last week we fix it with depliting loading and diuretics .

This is a crazy cycle . Do you think Ramy needs all this stuff to get that level?

I don't think any of the top pros "need" to take as much as they do. But this is their livelihood and when there is a lot of money & fame on the line they will do what it takes to win...even if that means taking way more than needed.

Posted: **Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:04 pm**

Mostly when they are sponsored and get all for free. if you have a full sponsor that tells you what amount HGH you need you will say alot because you get for free . And like you said they are pros, is their job and they need to win to keep this huge sponsors . None competitive sport is healthy .

Higher Doses when cutting? (Seems the pros are doing it)

Higher Doses when cutting? (Seems the pros are doing it)

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