In those days some people claim we should change our cycle every 4 weeks or so . This makes sense to you?
If Deca only gives results after 12 weeks straight use?
Bolde is better to run for 16 weeks?
If so why do protocols like this here:

1/4 week
Test Cyp
Deca
Dbol
5/8 week
Test E
Bolde
Anadrol
9/12
Test Prop
Tren Ace
Masteron Prop

MONSTRO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:20 pm In those days some people claim we should change our cycle every 4 weeks or so . This makes sense to you?
If Deca only gives results after 12 weeks straight use?
Bolde is better to run for 16 weeks?
If so why do protocols like this here:

1/4 week
Test Cyp
Deca
Dbol
5/8 week
Test E
Bolde
Anadrol
9/12
Test Prop
Tren Ace
Masteron Prop

I’ve always read and been told deca should be ran like you stated atleast 12 weeks to see the actual benefit from it. I guess switching compounds every 4 weeks would be a good idea if your using all fast compounds and a believer of tricking the body.

Yes with quick action gear makes sense , but i see alot of this protocols and always with slow action gear

Why?

That’s why I love higher mg test on low doses alongside short esters like trena or npp. You can ease in with the test and start with a descent dose npp or ace and dial it up if needed or swap every 4weeks

MONSTRO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:42 pm Yes with quick action gear makes sense , but i see alot of this protocols and always with slow action gear

Why?

don't ask why people do what they do.
there is no comprehensible answer except for them

There is a real legitimate strategy that is extremely effective with running short blitz cycles by changing the compounds..
As we all already know most of these hormones are derivatives of one or the other, however their mechanism of action will initiate different cellular transcriptions, whether it's more protein synthesis or the increase of nitrogen, water retention, and even the rejuvenation with tissue, while recruiting more motor units.. a lot of these mechanisms are not always activated by one specific hormone, other hormones may act more of a neurosteroid the act by way of activating the CNS, which in return has more open communication and channels with the muscle.. as we all know about focus and concentration with mind to muscle connection, this is where the philosophy of mind to muscle connection gets to be mentioned under a different scope.. these neurosteroids help with strength, by way of improving these pathways, these are complementary with the other compounds we have in addition that may operate with only smaller or limited range whether it's by way of AR activation or mediation, when we incorporate all of these agents that are specifically targeting independent pathways they ultimately compliment one another.. Halotestin is a prime example of a neurosteroid that has absolutely nothing to do with muscle growth or rejuvenation, recovery or protein synthesis, but rather stimulation of the CNS with sending the signals to the muscles to act in a mechanism fashion that they are not used to acting because of the open broadcast that is sending a larger signal..

It's not a matter of how much you were on for how long, because at one point there will become homeostasis and secondly myostatin will be a problem..

Switch-hitting with short esters is most ideal, you're basically targeting and blitzing, targeting and blitzing, targeting and blitzing.. you're not allowing anyting to normalize by finding balance, everything is constantly firing on all cylinders..

All of the Bro signs with certain hormones taking a certain time to show result is absolutely nonsense, the whole window frame with nandrolone and EQ, taking longer to work is silly, people misconstrue serum levels that build. These compounds are already reaching cMax levels within days or weeks of initial use, there is already progress being made, the progress and the results proceed further down the road is due to the fact of the heavy serum concentrations that have built over a longer duration that are just further expressing their activities which may seem more aggressive in favorable.. that is not the kick in time of the drug that is just a heavy whopping serum level that is reaching the blood medium that has built up over time..

This is why it's best to incorporate very heavy and long esters if you plan on doing 4 months, but during that time you will switch things up repeatedly every few weeks with shorter targeting compounds.. this does not mean overall larger and more better growth, it just means you'll have continuous progress.. at the same time you have to continuously change your macro income, if you have the same nutritional income the entire duration you will not have greater returns.

This is why it's best to slowly add or subtract, if you add too much with macros at first you'll have nothing more to add as time goes on, same with subtracting, if you subtract too much and your gains become stagnant oh, this is where you hit a brick wall because you can no longer subtract anymore... This is why it's pivotal to focus more in the kitchen with your macros than anything else. Feed your compounds appropriately and give them the nutrients that they need accordingly, and know how to time your macros with your compounds, and this is where things will become a game-changer.. we can't always focus on compounds that are notoriously favored for growth, this is why we should look at other drugs and consider them for their off-label properties, because there will be a Cascade of events that will ultimately compliment everything..

So the more important is to eat enough food to grow and so have results in muscle mass ?

And for cycle is always better to run deca for 12 weeks than only 4?

I’d like to see someone run a 12 week cycle log switching compounds every 4 weeks. All fast acting esters. Test can be prop/cyp or anything else they prefer but then pick fast esters to swap out every 4 weeks.

In my opinion fast acting just last 6 weeks pre contest or to use as kick start instead of the orals. Quick action dont give you a stable hormone cycle and for exemple trenbolone acetato is not propionate so should be injected every day

MONSTRO wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:09 pm In my opinion fast acting just last 6 weeks pre contest or to use as kick start instead of the orals. Quick action dont give you a stable hormone cycle and for exemple trenbolone acetato is not propionate so should be injected every day

fast acting are very underrated...