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Question on growth and insulin sensitivity
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:12 am
by MattDamon47
What is the limit of growth you could take without requiring insulin? Is the 1-2 I.u the only amount you could sustain for indefinitely. If you wanted to do 4-6 I.u what could you do to counteract the loss of insulin sensitivity if you planned to cycle if for awhile. Could you cycle 1 to 2 I.u or grown with 4 to 6 I.u and perhaps fast for a few days and introduce carbs again slowly?
Re: Question on growth and insulin sensitivity
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:07 am
by A.font817
I have some gh on the way and do not plan on using insulin with it. I’ll be doing 4iu right in the morning when I wake up IM. I’ll be following a 5 days on 2 days off schedule. This will be my first run with growth so I’ll be seeing how this goes but I plan to run for a min of 6 months if all goes well.
Re: Question on growth and insulin sensitivity
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:30 pm
by MONSTRO
Hgh should be used every day non stop for 6 months or more to see results.
Hgh without insulin is almost worthless because the main goal of hgh is produce IGF and this only when used with slin
Insulin dont make you diabetic , but hgh alone used in high dosages long time you will be diabetic
The only problem with slin is it can kill you easy and quick ( is not recommended )
Re: Question on growth and insulin sensitivity
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:48 pm
by Degas
MONSTRO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:30 pm
Hgh should be used every day non stop for 6 months or more to see results.
Hgh without insulin is almost worthless because the main goal of hgh is produce IGF and this only when used with slin
Insulin dont make you diabetic , but hgh alone used in high dosages long time you will be diabetic
The only problem with slin is it can kill you easy and quick ( is not recommended )
Yes my friends the big problem of insulin os that can kill you easy.if you dont now how to use thant.e never tried because of that when you dont now dont risk your life
Re: Question on growth and insulin sensitivity
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:47 am
by MattDamon47
Are there any supplements you could use like slin pills to increase insulin sensitivity on gh or a ghrp?
Re: Question on growth and insulin sensitivity
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:02 pm
by MONSTRO
You can use metformin 1 to 2gr per day. Some people use IGF Lr3 instead of insulin pré and post workout because is much safer . With igf you never die.
Re: Question on growth and insulin sensitivity
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:58 pm
by Vision
its not about taking a minimum before the addition of slin. This will come down to "when" you start to display insulin resistance and how you time HGH.. It comes down to timing. HGH induced insulin resistance is reversible and can be treated.
This can start at just a therapeutic dosage, in fact most studies that cover this is based on therapeutic dosages. This has been cited on VERY low dosages, bear in mind that user sensitivity will vary. In most healthy people insulin sensitive will normalize after 5 hrs of HGH, so that's when the spike hits the bottom of the curve..
You'll have to get blood work and time this to know for certain, because most of these reports people had blood drawn literally every few hrs in groups, these are controlled studies..Some people like to state that after 30 days or so it when most are effected, this is false, unless people are in a controlled environment there is not real definitive answer rather than just over-supported passionate hypothesis making stead fast claims, mostly guru's.
A few ways to hinder this will be to cut back on carbs, and know your carbs on the glycemic scale, carb quality is important, exercise more ( not just sling weights, incorp more cardio). and Get more rest, sleep is uno numero.
Get blood work fasted after 60 days, check thyroid function as well and take it from there.. Don't add T3/T4 or slin unless you get bloods. You'll also notice you may go hypo more often, if you do and it's long past HGH intake that could be a good indication that low dose slin may be necessary for balance.
Re: Question on growth and insulin sensitivity
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:24 pm
by MONSTRO
Of course blood works is the best way to check , mostly when you are beginner on it and dont know your body .