"ask the guru" When is the best time to change compounds?

[MONSTRO]

We all know we should change compounds to keep having results, because like diet and training if we keep it the same we cant keep improving .

In my opinion short esters are perfect to do that ( like every 4 weeks you change from NPP to Tren ace and they kick in super fast) . but long esters make sense to do that?

Like per exemple Deca is as super slow action , do you think we should drop it at 4 weeks or even 12 weeks to change to other like boldenone? Or with long esters to see results you should keep it for 12+ weeks to have the full effects ?

Other option is beggin with test and deca , and every 4 weeks put a new compound but keep test and deca until the end?

[Kiliador]

When using long esters normaly I do a ladder, i keep the levels steady for 12 weeks, then shock it adding another coumpound or change the one i'm using, normaly it's stronger. For example -> running NPP + enant test then shocking with Deca (drop the npp) then add turinabol or dianabol to end the cycle.
For this time while cutting, I used Tren E + Test E + boldenone, last 6 weeks I changed boldenone to masteron prop, added oxandrolone and 100-150mg more of tren E weekly.

[Kiliador]

I wouldn't change deca to boldenone, unless you wanna finish with a leaner physique but less size.
I would go adding coumpounds (ladder) or getting the dose higher.

[MONSTRO]

This is a great option , instead of increasing dosages and have huge sides , put another compound. Most people use orals to kick start but i believe they make more sense to the end when you are not growing .

[Vision]

When using long esters normaly I do a ladder, i keep the levels steady for 12 weeks, then shock it adding another coumpound or change the one i'm using, normaly it's stronger. For example -> running NPP + enant test then shocking with Deca (drop the npp) then add turinabol or dianabol to end the cycle.
For this time while cutting, I used Tren E + Test E + boldenone, last 6 weeks I changed boldenone to masteron prop, added oxandrolone and 100-150mg more of tren E weekly.

Just wondering why you would change out a short ester like npp with nandrolone that takes time to build a serum level and reach reach the blood medium.. If anything when I do blitz combos with short esters, I keep them at 6 week intervals.. Maybe NPP, and switch to stenbolone, I will switch things around when Myostin levels peak, and hit the recs from a different angle where test becomes stagnant with that other than its primary overall endocrine functions. Orals a great for blitzing when on test and other oils. switching from var/tbol combo, to M1T is something that can be done as well.. of course using a liver detox and ridding fatty liver.

Liver cocktail - choline and inositol (3,000 mg per day of each) and L-methionine (1,500 mg per day).. Every 3 months for fatty liver detox or when running orals..

[MONSTRO]

Lets image someone beggins with basic bulk Test + Deca ( both very slow action ) , what should we use to help gains start since beggining?

use test prop 1h pre workout?
use NPP same time as deca to see results earlier ?
use orals ? witch ones best?

Is better to increase the dosages of we are using or introduce another compound?

[Kiliador]

When using long esters normaly I do a ladder, i keep the levels steady for 12 weeks, then shock it adding another coumpound or change the one i'm using, normaly it's stronger. For example -> running NPP + enant test then shocking with Deca (drop the npp) then add turinabol or dianabol to end the cycle.
For this time while cutting, I used Tren E + Test E + boldenone, last 6 weeks I changed boldenone to masteron prop, added oxandrolone and 100-150mg more of tren E weekly.

Just wondering why you would change out a short ester like npp with nandrolone that takes time to build a serum level and reach reach the blood medium.. If anything when I do blitz combos with short esters, I keep them at 6 week intervals.. Maybe NPP, and switch to stenbolone, I will switch things around when Myostin levels peak, and hit the recs from a different angle where test becomes stagnant with that other than its primary overall endocrine functions. Orals a great for blitzing when on test and other oils. switching from var/tbol combo, to M1T is something that can be done as well.. of course using a liver detox and ridding fatty liver.

Liver cocktail - choline and inositol (3,000 mg per day of each) and L-methionine (1,500 mg per day).. Every 3 months for fatty liver detox or when running orals..

It's still Nandrolone, just a different Ester, the levels are already stable and will allow you to do a bigger and stronger cycle