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Dostinex is necessary with 19nor?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:18 pm
by MONSTRO
Dostinex is one if the most expensive drugs in this sport and is only used to control prolactin , but we all know if we have estrogen under control prolactin dont increase in body. And tamoxifen control estrogen on nipples.
But i see alot of beginners using it even without side effects and most of the times in super low dosages of 19nor like 200 or 300mg week.
Is dostinex like the A.I. killing the gains?
So do you think we need dostinex?
Re: Dostinex is necessary with 19nor?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:40 pm
by Jozifp103
I don't think it is killing gains but it is certainly a waste of money to use it when you don't need it. I would always have it on hand when using a 19nor like tren, deca, or trestalone...but I wouldn't use it unless needed. Like you said, keeping estrogen controlled is usually enough to keep prolactin at bay as well. Some people do need a dopamine agonist like Dostinex even with proper E2 control but unless you need it no need to waste money...just keep it on hand.
Some people like the sexual side effects from it though. It makes it so you can go round after round with hardly any rest time in between.
Re: Dostinex is necessary with 19nor?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:10 pm
by Vision
Right now I have a major issue. This topic is great timing.
I woke up 2 days ago with a massive inflamed sensitive mass on my right peck just under the nipple.
I have never seen or felt anything this painful or this big in this time frame. It was literally days or over night that this happened. I take my adex as needed, I just recently added Nandrolone again to my protocol and now this happened, first time even. I have had gyno before but not like this.
I've been stayin the course with the AI and I will not change the dosage, changing it will do nothing right away and this takes time to see and feel the effects. I began to use the best course of action and that is the combo of caber with tomax.
Tamox will target the tissue, ER's right at the RECs, it won't do much for circulating E2, it will just inhibit it's ability to bind.
I started at 60mgs right away and 1mg cager. 3 days in I am still using 60mg tamox and I will stay this course until the inflammation subsides. The addition with caber will slow down circulating prolactin serum levels, this will also slow down the production is lactation. It's extremely sensitive to the touch, inflamed and swollen. It's very large, much like a hematoma.
I'll keep evetyone updated on how I do, and the very importance of having these products in hand and how useful they can be. This came out of thin air and I have not had any issue in ages with gyno. This all came at a bit of a surprise.
Tamox and Caber will be the game changers here.
Re: Dostinex is necessary with 19nor?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:50 pm
by MONSTRO
So only use when you fell the sign? just have dostinex and tamox on hand.
In other topics you said you use arimidex always during cycle even without sides of gyno? why? you now this kills your gains?
Re: Dostinex is necessary with 19nor?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:10 am
by Vision
MONSTRO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:50 pm
So only use when you fell the sign? just have dostinex and tamox on hand.
In other topics you said you use arimidex always during cycle even without sides of gyno? why? you now this kills your gains?
I always use ADEX my brother, just a small amount, I have heavy amount of enzymes, so I need to always be on top.. I use small amount of Adex.. I have to.. I agree that estro helps with growth, yet if I do not use it I have bag gyno.
I only add in tamox and dox/cab if I get signs. I never take it just to take it, there is no point and ity can be just as bad as taking adex and smashing levels if you do not need it.
I take tamox the moment I have any soreness in nips or excessive bloat, and I take cab if I can NOT cum during sex or if I go semi limp. I watch for certain signs, this is a good indicator to me that my prolactin is high.. tamox and cab is a GREAT combo when used properly!
Re: Dostinex is necessary with 19nor?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:10 pm
by MONSTRO
This is good information for all of us- If you are prone to high estrogen use some adex or exemestano during cycle and keep tamox and dostinex on hand when you fell side effects.
Remember AI like adex will reduce your bloat and keep you dry ( lessa water retention by excess of estrogen)
During the bulking cycle when i fell more bloated gut and most of fat goes around waist is sign of high estrogen?
Re: Dostinex is necessary with 19nor?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:53 pm
by Vision
MONSTRO wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:10 pm
This is good information for all of us- If you are prone to high estrogen use some adex or exemestano during cycle and keep tamox and dostinex on hand when you fell side effects.
Remember AI like adex will reduce your bloat and keep you dry ( lessa water retention by excess of estrogen)
During the bulking cycle when i fell more bloated gut and most of fat goes around waist is sign of high estrogen?
so far I have noticed a huge reduction compared to day one. day one it was massive and red, hurt so man, it was huge. Now with tamox and caber it is slowly shrinking down, fast too!
How this happened beats me, it's just a fluke thing.
Re: Dostinex is necessary with 19nor?
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:39 pm
by MONSTRO
Vision sorry to know that, stay safe and play safe always.
In your opinion is better to use always AI during cycle , mostly when you use over 1gr test? or only use when you have side effects? I always prone to gyno because the first drugs i use to grow was prohormones when they are legal, and since then i always have problem . And this was the main reason in the past i abuse AI , even at low dosages i use 1 adex per day sometimes 2,5mg letro per day. Shreded but flat :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dostinex dont kill gains? here pharmacy is only 23 euros for 8 pills