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AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:35 pm
by Madmattward
Hi all,
I’m new to the whole gear side of bodybuilding, and would like your advice on the best course of action for myself.
Firstly, a little about myself.
I’m 47, 5’10”, 200lb, and I’ve been training weights naturally for 30 yrs on and off. Over the past 7yrs I’ve started to take it more seriously, getting good results from 5x5 Stronglifts and 5/3/1 Wendler. Now I follow a more Mentzer way of training, with high intensity and less volume (due to time constraints). However, I’m now finding recovering getting harder, more aches and pains than I like, and in need of some assistance to keep training.
I started researching steroids and suppliers. I eventually came across Evolutionary.org forums and got in touch with Vision for advice on oral steroids. I’m needle phobic, and my plan was to stack a light cycle of Oxandrolone and Stanozolol, followed by a PCT with Clomid. However, Vision recommended using Anavar/Tbol combination along with proviron. Having read up on his suggestion, I can see the value of this, along with incorporating tamoxifen in the PCT. I followed the PSL link here to you guys, and discovered SARMS!
Since reading about SARMS on this forum, I’m wondering if they would be a better route to take for what I’m looking for, which is longevity in the weights game! I am particularly intrigued by the Rad140, Ligandrol and MK677 stack. At my age, would this type of cycle give me the recovery and joint longevity I’m after, while minimising the impact on my liver? In other words would SARMS be a better option for me than AAS?
Would really appreciate your thoughts!
Cheers
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
by MONSTRO
First what Vision said is the best oral option because are the healthiest steroids by far, and in your age and a biginner in this you first need to take care of your health ( be fit but at same time healthy ).
If you can use needles ( try to ask some one to give you and close eyes just because injectables are the healthiest choise and in your age testosterone will do amazing thinks to you ( sex drive , libido, energy )
If you can do injectables i sugest Test Cyp + Masteron and you can do as TRT forever and be and feal amazing , you can put here some anavar and will rock
Just be carefull with heavy weights at this age , i love but i stop and im 43 . Go to high intensity with drop sets , less rest fell the pump.
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:51 pm
by Madmattward
MONSTRO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
First what Vision said is the best oral option because are the healthiest steroids by far, and in your age and a biginner in this you first need to take care of your health ( be fit but at same time healthy ).
If you can use needles ( try to ask some one to give you and close eyes just because injectables are the healthiest choise and in your age testosterone will do amazing thinks to you ( sex drive , libido, energy )
If you can do injectables i sugest Test Cyp + Masteron and you can do as TRT forever and be and feal amazing , you can put here some anavar and will rock
Just be carefull with heavy weights at this age , i love but i stop and im 43 . Go to high intensity with drop sets , less rest fell the pump.
Many thanks for replying, and you’re right about stopping the heavy weights, and I’ve moved to high intensity as you suggested. You’re also right about injecting, but it’s not something i can do or get someone to do for me, as I’m trying to keep it low key due to my work and home life.
Great to have someone of your experience to get advice from, cheers
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:24 pm
by MONSTRO
Welcome to forum , and anything im here . Try Euro Pharmacies Cialis to , i love it
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:09 am
by Vision
Madmattward wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:35 pm
Hi all,
I’m new to the whole gear side of bodybuilding, and would like your advice on the best course of action for myself.
Firstly, a little about myself.
I’m 47, 5’10”, 200lb, and I’ve been training weights naturally for 30 yrs on and off. Over the past 7yrs I’ve started to take it more seriously, getting good results from 5x5 Stronglifts and 5/3/1 Wendler. Now I follow a more Mentzer way of training, with high intensity and less volume (due to time constraints). However, I’m now finding recovering getting harder, more aches and pains than I like, and in need of some assistance to keep training.
I started researching steroids and suppliers. I eventually came across Evolutionary.org forums and got in touch with Vision for advice on oral steroids. I’m needle phobic, and my plan was to stack a light cycle of Oxandrolone and Stanozolol, followed by a PCT with Clomid. However, Vision recommended using Anavar/Tbol combination along with proviron. Having read up on his suggestion, I can see the value of this, along with incorporating tamoxifen in the PCT. I followed the PSL link here to you guys, and discovered SARMS!
Since reading about SARMS on this forum, I’m wondering if they would be a better route to take for what I’m looking for, which is longevity in the weights game! I am particularly intrigued by the Rad140, Ligandrol and MK677 stack. At my age, would this type of cycle give me the recovery and joint longevity I’m after, while minimising the impact on my liver? In other words would SARMS be a better option for me than AAS?
Would really appreciate your thoughts!
Cheers
I'm super excited to see you over here man, How did I miss this thread?
Honestly SARMS are a great alternative, but the reality is they can get costly using time after time, eventually you'll want to dial things up even more. You can have great success with sarms without a doubt.
Being a needle phobe, maybe look into a slin pin and pin some test subQ.. its truly painless and you do NOT feel it, at all.
Jump on the oral combo that I suggested, you'll need the test in the background because you will be shut down from the orals.. It truly isn't that bad pinning test subq.
Try a sarms stack, see how you do and just think about the whole test slin pin option, because you owe it to yourself to consider other options, even if they might make you a bit uncomfortable, you'll soon became comfortable because you'll enjoy the return more than you allow a phobia that holds you back. Beat that demon, you can do this.
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:03 am
by MONSTRO
I think nobody have more affraid of needles than me . As child i cry all day to take vacines . And now i do 3cc every day and hgh slin every day .
Why ? BECAUSE WHEN YOU NEED SOMETHING YOU HAVE YO BE PREPARED TO DO ALL
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:05 am
by Vision
MONSTRO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:03 am
I think nobody have more affraid of needles than me . As child i cry all day to take vacines . And now i do 3cc every day and hgh slin every day .
Why ? BECAUSE WHEN YOU NEED SOMETHING YOU HAVE YO BE PREPARED TO DO ALL
That's the truth, just face the fears and get it over with.
My biggest fear was swimming in deep water where I can't see the bottom, or murky water. I jumped off a pier not to long ago into very deep ocean water. I was absolutely terrified the whole time. Once I hit water, I just took it in that I was going to be OK and I had many,many good people around me that wouldn't let anything happen. I haven't did it since, but I'm not afraid to now, and that's all that matters.
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:20 pm
by Jozifp103
Some things to consider here.
1.) You're certainly not old, but you're at the age where natural test levels start to decline and recovery becomes more difficult after using suppressive compounds. If you go down this route, eventually you're going to have to get over your fear of needles because you will end up needing to supplement your own testosterone. It's just something that is inevitable if you decide to go down the road of anabolics. It might take several years, it might take one cycle, but eventually your body just won't be able to do it anymore.
2.) Using any suppressive compound without a testosterone base will of course suppress your natural test levels. And because you are not injecting any to replace it, you may not feel your best. You may feel fine, it really depends on the person but most guys don't feel too great with little to no actual testosterone in their system.
Whatever you decide to do, keep us posted brother. I'd love to follow a long on your journey.
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:28 pm
by Madmattward
Guys, I can’t thank you all enough for your advice, and deep down I know you’re right, the needle thing is something I’ll have to cross and overcome.
One of my concerns is that once I start using testosterone, my own production will stop and I’ll have to carry on.
I guess I just need to learn a lot more, it’s a whole new world.
I’m tempted to try a SARMS stack first and then an oral steroid stack next. Hopefully I can then progress to trying injectables after. Ease myself in to the idea.
Again, thank you for your support and advice, and I’ll keep you posted on my journey, it’s great to know there’s an awesome place like this to turn to!
Re: AAS or SARMS? Which route would be best?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:10 pm
by MONSTRO
Dear friend at 47 is almost necessary and healthy to use testosterone without stop at low dose as TRT , is the most healthier choise for our ages over 40 , and Masteron and HGH is huge adictions for sure .
Remenber injectables are much healthier and you can use without stop , Orals even sarms are toxic to liver and you cant use straight .
Keep safe and healthier
