You have to ways to run Insulin + HGH ( the safe way and the crazy way ):

the smart way:
45min before workout take humalog (10-15-20, up to you)

make a 1 liter shake with enough carbs to cover insulin, EEA's creatine, citrulline, yada yada yada

30min before workout start sipping on this shake and drink about 1/3rd of it (humalog has 15min onset time thats why we start sipping 15mins after injection)

30mins later start workout and start sipping on the rest (2/3rds) of the shake during workout, few sips between sets so its finished during workout. LOTS of sets, pumping, angles, really kick ass and volumize



after workout take asap another dose of humalog and now 2nd shake: dextrose to cover carbs, 60-70gr whey isolate, glutamine, creatine. sip on this shake for next 45mins

back at the house have a LEAN protein meal and some more carbs (rice, oatmeal, potatoes etc)

this method keeps high carbs and insulin strictly focussed around workout and rest of day is protein and bit of fats to keep fatburning going and insulin sensitivity high. NO insulin on rest days


the FUCK IT ALL method:
insulin all day and avery day. base 50-100IU lantus and then on top humalog with each meal

this will get you HUGE quickly BUT it will fuck up your insulin sensitivity, chronicly high igf-1 levels, non stop eating. we call it the dallas mccarver style: growing supre quick like a maniac with no regards to health



hgh i would keep with morning cardio, middle of day and before sleep. AWAY from insulin injections and active time as they are counter regulatory

Dont have Lantus in the list . Is the best insulin for bulking because increases IGF 30% and increases hunger more than Humalog.

this is Mike Arnold's "The Ultimate Insulin Protocol" and the use of pre-workout insulin

1) 60 minutes pre-workout: optional (Any of the NO stimulant supplements on the market. Gaspari Nutrition “Vasotropin” is a great product).
2) 45 minutes pre-workout: 15 IU Humulin R.
3) 20 minutes pre-workout: 50 grams of high molecular weight carbohydrates (ex: Vitargo, Karbolyn, etc). 20 grams of hydrolyzed protein (ex: Hydrowhey). 20 grams of Glycerol Monostearate. 3 grams of Leucine. 5 grams of Micronized Creatine Monohydrate. 2 grams of Beta alanine. 10 grams of Glutamine. 3 grams of Taurine. 500 mg Potassium. 1 gram of Vitamin C.
4) 75 minutes after the 1st shake: 50 grams of high molecular weight carbohydrates. 20 grams of hydrolyzed protein. 10 grams of Glycerol Monostearate. 3 grams of Leucine. 5 grams of Micronized Creatine Monohydrate. 2 grams Beta alanine. 10 grams of Glutamine. 3 grams of Taurine.
5) 75 minutes after the 2nd shake: 50 grams of high molecular weight carbohydrates. 20 grams of hydrolyzed protein. 3 grams of Leucine. 5 grams of Glutamine.

Total protein: 60 grams (excluding added free amino acids)
Total carbohydrates: 150 grams (excluding the carbohydrate traces contained in protein powders).

For users who are preparing to use this protocol for the 1st time, while the above macros / slin ratio is sufficient, Arnold always recommends starting with a reduced dosage and gradually increasing up to the full amount. . For a novice, a dosage of 6-8 IU is ideal. This can be followed by a 2nd injection of 8-10 IU ... then moving on to a 3rd injection of 10-12 IU before reaching the maximum dosage of 15 IU.

The user can do 2 "off" weeks every 4 "on" weeks.
The individual can add Glucophage (Metformin) in his program 3-4 times a week at a dosage of 700-800 mg, twice a day.

another preworkout protocol is as follows

30 minutes pre-workout: 6-10UI of GH subq
15 minutes pre-workout: 6-16IU of Novalog subq
10 minutes pre-workout: take shake # 1
After each set performed: sip shake # 2, and finish it by the end of the workout.
Go home
Administer the 100mcg dose of IGF-1lr3 (for its effects on insulin sensitivity
Take shake # 3

Shake 1: 10-20g of EAA (Essential Amino Acids) or PeptoPro, 40-60g Vitargo, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, 200mg of Caffeine (improves glycogen resynthesis); also in this case the dose of carbohydrates for each IU is on average about 7-10g.

Shake 2: 10-20g EAA or PeptoPro, 50-100g Vitargo, 5g of Micronized Carnitine Monohydrate.

Shake 3: 2 cups of pasteurized egg white, 1 cup of instant oats, 1 banana or 1 cup of blueberries, Splenda or Stevia.

I also read another insulin protocol article that uses fat instead of carbohydrates but it is much more complex.
He's called:
The Ultimate “No Fat Gain” Insulin Program
just google it if you want to read it

Phill wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:14 am another preworkout protocol is as follows

30 minutes pre-workout: 6-10UI of GH subq
15 minutes pre-workout: 6-16IU of Novalog subq
10 minutes pre-workout: take shake # 1
After each set performed: sip shake # 2, and finish it by the end of the workout.
Go home
Administer the 100mcg dose of IGF-1lr3 (for its effects on insulin sensitivity
Take shake # 3

Shake 1: 10-20g of EAA (Essential Amino Acids) or PeptoPro, 40-60g Vitargo, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, 200mg of Caffeine (improves glycogen resynthesis); also in this case the dose of carbohydrates for each IU is on average about 7-10g.

Shake 2: 10-20g EAA or PeptoPro, 50-100g Vitargo, 5g of Micronized Carnitine Monohydrate.

Shake 3: 2 cups of pasteurized egg white, 1 cup of instant oats, 1 banana or 1 cup of blueberries, Splenda or Stevia.

This is a great lay on how to use slin...