Jozifp103 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:17 pm Does anyone still use supplements like NO3 Preworkouts, or Creatine while on AAS? Does it really even do anything at that point? I mean Creatine is great for a few lbs of water in your muscles and increasing ATP to give your muscles a bit more energy. And NO3 supplements do increase your pump and all that...but considering AAS does all these things to a greater degree, is there even any point to including these kinds of supplements into your regimen? I haven't touched Creatine or any other supplement besides whey since I started using AAS several years ago. Does anyone still use these with AAS and have some experience to share?

Vision wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:43 pm

Jozifp103 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:17 pm Does anyone still use supplements like NO3 Preworkouts, or Creatine while on AAS? Does it really even do anything at that point? I mean Creatine is great for a few lbs of water in your muscles and increasing ATP to give your muscles a bit more energy. And NO3 supplements do increase your pump and all that...but considering AAS does all these things to a greater degree, is there even any point to including these kinds of supplements into your regimen? I haven't touched Creatine or any other supplement besides whey since I started using AAS several years ago. Does anyone still use these with AAS and have some experience to share?

I use creatine intra and Post... I especially use it when running var... Var enhances creatine and its functions, increased pumps and fullness.. Var creates creatine synthesis.. Yes AAS does many things but they also create the environment in which
are bodies are more sensitive and inclined to utilize to a greater potential.. Much like protein synthesis when using AAS, with certain supplements there because other opportunities for nutrition partition and transportation and utilization. These windows of opportunity are there, why not capitalize on them while it presents itself?

Jozifp103 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:32 pm

Vision wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:43 pm

Jozifp103 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:17 pm Does anyone still use supplements like NO3 Preworkouts, or Creatine while on AAS? Does it really even do anything at that point? I mean Creatine is great for a few lbs of water in your muscles and increasing ATP to give your muscles a bit more energy. And NO3 supplements do increase your pump and all that...but considering AAS does all these things to a greater degree, is there even any point to including these kinds of supplements into your regimen? I haven't touched Creatine or any other supplement besides whey since I started using AAS several years ago. Does anyone still use these with AAS and have some experience to share?

I use creatine intra and Post... I especially use it when running var... Var enhances creatine and its functions, increased pumps and fullness.. Var creates creatine synthesis.. Yes AAS does many things but they also create the environment in which
are bodies are more sensitive and inclined to utilize to a greater potential.. Much like protein synthesis when using AAS, with certain supplements there because other opportunities for nutrition partition and transportation and utilization. These windows of opportunity are there, why not capitalize on them while it presents itself?

I was not expecting an actual definitive answer backed by science lol. This is the answer I was looking for. Great info bro.

Vision wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:07 am

Jozifp103 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:32 pm

Vision wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:43 pm

I use creatine intra and Post... I especially use it when running var... Var enhances creatine and its functions, increased pumps and fullness.. Var creates creatine synthesis.. Yes AAS does many things but they also create the environment in which
are bodies are more sensitive and inclined to utilize to a greater potential.. Much like protein synthesis when using AAS, with certain supplements there because other opportunities for nutrition partition and transportation and utilization. These windows of opportunity are there, why not capitalize on them while it presents itself?

I was not expecting an actual definitive answer backed by science lol. This is the answer I was looking for. Great info bro.

Not many people are aware of this process with creatine and var.. It almost amplifies the effects of one an other.
when peeling down and use var with creatine, you dont get that flat look especially if you are on tren with var, and you toss some carbs as a back load.. If Im on tren/var I'll use creatine and back load carbs in the evenings and this hinders that flatting look but at least 80%

In the off chance you have a study on this saved....could you link it on here? I can't find anything on the interwebs pertaining to this and I'd love to read more about it.

*EDIT: Also....you should do a write up on this topic and share the knowledge with the members. If you feel up to it of course. But knowing you, you'd be all over it .

Jozifp103 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:42 am

Vision wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:07 am

Jozifp103 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:32 pm
I was not expecting an actual definitive answer backed by science lol. This is the answer I was looking for. Great info bro.

Not many people are aware of this process with creatine and var.. It almost amplifies the effects of one an other.
when peeling down and use var with creatine, you dont get that flat look especially if you are on tren with var, and you toss some carbs as a back load.. If Im on tren/var I'll use creatine and back load carbs in the evenings and this hinders that flatting look but at least 80%

In the off chance you have a study on this saved....could you link it on here? I can't find anything on the interwebs pertaining to this and I'd love to read more about it.

*EDIT: Also....you should do a write up on this topic and share the knowledge with the members. If you feel up to it of course. But knowing you, you'd be all over it .