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This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:11 pm
by Vision
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Although this episode happened a very long time ago, bizarre and unfortunate instances with mislabeled or wrong drugs have been purchased before on the net or streets. In this particular episode it involves what was originally expected to be Deca.. Yup, the street name Deca for Nandrolone as most call it because of its assigned trade name, This is why many users anymore often resort to calling drugs by there first name because it would sound silly walking around asking for Enanthate. Meh, Deca has always been the exception, same for Viagra, Cialis and even Accutane, we all know what the person is referring too, right? So, deca it is and shall remain as is.. Same for the others.

This older article was brought back to light by the writes over at Ergo-log news site, they figured it would be a great conversation piece.. Check out what their columnist put together below -

This deca is not going to make your muscles grow

Although the decanoate part of the nandrolone decanoate molecule does not have an anabolic effect, in the steroid scene deca, short for decanoate, has become synonymous with nandrolone decanoate. From a chemical point of view, that is of course strange. It does explain however a bizarre medical case involving a British bodybuilder, which doctors published long ago in the British Journal of Sports Medicine. Although the affair dates back to 1992, we still wanted to share it with you.

A different kind of decanoate
The main character in the case study, was a 30-year-old man who bought nandrolone decanoate on the black market. Well, he thought so. However, the ampoules he had received contained haloperidol decanoate, not nandrolone decanoate.

This deca is not going to make your muscles grow
"If decanoate is printed on it, it will make you grow", the man must have thought. To be completely sure that this muscle growth would actually take place, the man also took the antihistamine cryptoheptadine [structural formula on the right]. Cryptoheaptadine stimulates appetite.

Haloperidol decanoate is an injectable antipsychotic. After injection, enzymes slowly cut off the decanoate part of the molecule, releasing the active haloperidol compund. Haloperidol blocks dopamine receptors in the brain and thereby reduces psychotic symptoms such as delusions and hallucinations. After injection, the substance remains active for about a month.

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Side effects

If psychiatrists want to suppress psychotic symptoms, they prefer to use drugs other than haloperidol at first. Haloperidol has a relatively large number of side effects, which patients experience as extremely unpleasant. Patients become restless and usually suffer from an uncontrollable urge to move. Paradoxically, haloperidol makes drowsy and sleepy at the same time.

Those were exactly the side effects that the bodybuilder experienced. After his injection, he first slept for a few days, and then he had a severe urge to move for several weeks. For that reason, and because the man faced paralyzing fear that the side effects would be permanent, the doctors decided to treat him in the day care center of a psychiatric center.

The episode had a traumatizing effect on the bodybuilder. "While the physical symptoms presented no further problems, they continued to have persistent reactive psychiatric difficulties, with loss of confidence and low self-esteem for at least the next 9 months", the doctors wrote.

Source:
Br J Sports Med. 1992 Dec;26(4):219-20.
Read full study here!!!

Ok... Let's hear your thoughts? And go...

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:26 pm
by Phill
#-o
pay just a "little" bit more attention, don't you?

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:43 pm
by MONSTRO
Impressive how people did not pay attention. Decanoate is the kind of ester used on deca or nandrolone , its only the ester not the quimical . If the product dont said deca ou nandrolone is not what you looking for .

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:39 pm
by Jozifp103
Yikes. I mean, I can see how maybe a novice or first time AAS user could make that mistake...but if this guy is a "bodybuilder" then he should be ashamed of his ignorance. Deca is just slang/street name for NANDROLONE decanoate. DECA = DECANOATE = AN ESTER, NOT THE ACTUAL DRUG.

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:56 pm
by MONSTRO
Thats why i always tell learning is power . The more knowlage you have the better. Thats why all my free time im learning more here on forums .

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:41 pm
by Vision
Jozifp103 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:39 pm Yikes. I mean, I can see how maybe a novice or first time AAS user could make that mistake...but if this guy is a "bodybuilder" then he should be ashamed of his ignorance. Deca is just slang/street name for NANDROLONE decanoate. DECA = DECANOATE = AN ESTER, NOT THE ACTUAL DRUG.
I agree with that statement but at the same time it contradicts itself only with instances that I have personally witnessed, an example would be there has been quite a few guys in my small circle that I've gone to high school with that have been using off and on for many many many years..

I remember having a conversation with one of them sust, and he wanted to add something else to it and I made the suggestion about neanderthalone, he stopped me in what would appear to be almost an argumental tone or disbelief wondering why I would suggest that? He proceeded to tell me that sust already had "deca"..

I was baffled dumbfounded, I could not quite possibly understand what he was talking about. We went back and forth for quite a bit until he finally pulled out his phone and showed me a picture and there it had a list of all of the parenting hormones.. and obviously one of them was testosterone undecanoate..
He actually believed that that itself "deca".. it wasn't long after until I had someone in or around the same period have the same exact discussion with me and these are coming from guys that have somewhat a decent amount of Street usage... I explain to them where they were mixing things up, how they were wording things wrong and how they were misinterpreting what they were reading with similarities in the names with the actual parenting hormone verse the ester, then I gave them a quick history lesson on how the name deca has stuck with the name of this hormone as it's go to reference with its identity.

I often think about how much bad advice that they were giving others and if I could be a fly on the wall when all of them are having discussions..

This is why people need to truly educate themselves, this is why people should never take the word of the Gospel from some local gym rat..

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:33 pm
by MONSTRO
Knowlage and learning is power ! Im here to help with my knowlage but always open to learn with all of you , even the beginners .
The biggest problem in this area is beginners listen to all people in the gym , most of the times people with same knowlage and experience as him and do all wrong . Get a coach or came to this forum to learn only the truth

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:35 pm
by Vision
MONSTRO wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:33 pm Knowlage and learning is power ! Im here to help with my knowlage but always open to learn with all of you , even the beginners .
The biggest problem in this area is beginners listen to all people in the gym , most of the times people with same knowlage and experience as him and do all wrong . Get a coach or came to this forum to learn only the truth
Everybody is glad that you were here, along with other members that contribute and help everyone stay better educated and better informed.. we all owe it to each other to keep each other in the know.. even if it's just a refresher with topics that we have talked about a thousand times over, there's nothing wrong with talking about basics..

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:42 pm
by MONSTRO
the real good topics should always be pushed, the more we talk the more people we help with knowlage of basics .

Re: This is NOT Nandrolone.. BECAREFUL!

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:15 pm
by Jozifp103
Vision wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:41 pm
Jozifp103 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:39 pm Yikes. I mean, I can see how maybe a novice or first time AAS user could make that mistake...but if this guy is a "bodybuilder" then he should be ashamed of his ignorance. Deca is just slang/street name for NANDROLONE decanoate. DECA = DECANOATE = AN ESTER, NOT THE ACTUAL DRUG.
I agree with that statement but at the same time it contradicts itself only with instances that I have personally witnessed, an example would be there has been quite a few guys in my small circle that I've gone to high school with that have been using off and on for many many many years..

I remember having a conversation with one of them sust, and he wanted to add something else to it and I made the suggestion about neanderthalone, he stopped me in what would appear to be almost an argumental tone or disbelief wondering why I would suggest that? He proceeded to tell me that sust already had "deca"..

I was baffled dumbfounded, I could not quite possibly understand what he was talking about. We went back and forth for quite a bit until he finally pulled out his phone and showed me a picture and there it had a list of all of the parenting hormones.. and obviously one of them was testosterone undecanoate..
He actually believed that that itself "deca".. it wasn't long after until I had someone in or around the same period have the same exact discussion with me and these are coming from guys that have somewhat a decent amount of Street usage... I explain to them where they were mixing things up, how they were wording things wrong and how they were misinterpreting what they were reading with similarities in the names with the actual parenting hormone verse the ester, then I gave them a quick history lesson on how the name deca has stuck with the name of this hormone as it's go to reference with its identity.

I often think about how much bad advice that they were giving others and if I could be a fly on the wall when all of them are having discussions..

This is why people need to truly educate themselves, this is why people should never take the word of the Gospel from some local gym rat..
I definitely agree as I have run into a few "street users" that have some experience but still have no idea half the shit they are putting into their bodies. However, I can see how your buddy was thrown off...I'm not sure I'd want to try Neanderthalone either. It sound like either something that would turn you into a Neanderthal or a cross-hybrid of a Neanderthal and Sylvester Stallone.

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